1 00:00:00,070 --> 00:00:14,310 [Music] 2 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:16,390 it was basically a cube with inside of 3 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:19,039 sphere where the points of the cube 4 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:22,850 were touching outside of sphere 5 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:34,590 [Music] 6 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:37,200 [Applause] 7 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:38,800 so this isn't anything that just is 8 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:41,040 limited to the united states it's a 9 00:00:54,790 --> 00:00:51,270 first up on the listener calling for 10 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:54,800 january 2022 we've got joe in london joe 11 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:56,160 how are we 12 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:58,320 i'm very good thank you how are you i am 13 00:01:01,670 --> 00:00:59,760 very well thanks for being the first 14 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:01,680 caller on the the first listener colin 15 00:01:06,870 --> 00:01:05,040 show of the year um i got your email and 16 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:06,880 you'd put down a few things you wanted 17 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:08,560 to talk about um which was really 18 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:10,960 interesting uh you mentioned uh i had 19 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:13,680 seen grant cameron posting about some 20 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:15,680 some recent signals being transmitted 21 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:17,520 and things like that so it was a 22 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:18,720 fascinating 23 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:20,159 way to kick off the show i thought so 24 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:22,080 i'm glad you're on first uh so the floor 25 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:23,200 is yours joe what do you want to talk 26 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:24,720 about 27 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:27,520 yeah um so i think to to whine back a 28 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:29,200 little bit yeah grant carman did post 29 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:31,840 recently about uh a podcast he had done 30 00:01:36,149 --> 00:01:34,720 with uh jimmy blanchette and marcel 31 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:36,159 vidovich on 32 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:38,720 some recent results with the um various 33 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:41,280 attempts to to gain contact through the 34 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:44,079 radio modality i think he coined it c6 35 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:46,560 um but essentially he was um getting a 36 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:48,399 lot of success with that 37 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:51,280 um but to to go back a step i actually 38 00:01:54,789 --> 00:01:52,240 um 39 00:01:56,950 --> 00:01:54,799 got a sort of advanced notice of of what 40 00:02:00,149 --> 00:01:56,960 of this work that was going on early on 41 00:02:01,590 --> 00:02:00,159 in the year um i i know someone who's 42 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:01,600 been in touch with mark sims and 43 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:03,280 maxine's just been in touch with jamie 44 00:02:07,030 --> 00:02:04,560 blanchett so 45 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:07,040 i i actually got um 46 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:10,000 the there's a pdf document um on how to 47 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:11,039 set up 48 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:13,280 um basically have a 49 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:16,480 sorry a simple handheld radio um doesn't 50 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:18,319 have to be too powerful um i've got a 51 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:19,680 five watt one 52 00:02:25,030 --> 00:02:22,640 and it tells you how to take a message 53 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:25,040 and then just to decode it um so i 54 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:27,840 encode it into a particular 55 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:30,400 format and then you kind of see you uh 56 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:33,920 you send that over the radio signal and 57 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:35,200 the idea is that you can actually 58 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:37,920 broadcast a message and it gets encoded 59 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:39,599 um at the other end so 60 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:42,160 um sorry occurred at the end 61 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:43,840 oh yeah it's basically 62 00:02:48,949 --> 00:02:47,040 and so um basically i i gave this a go 63 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:48,959 last year i think i mentioned i was on 64 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:50,640 another call and i mentioned i do a bit 65 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:53,840 of c5 um and during those events i'll 66 00:02:57,589 --> 00:02:55,440 send out a message of you know the 67 00:02:59,509 --> 00:02:57,599 location i was at um the people in the 68 00:03:01,350 --> 00:02:59,519 team and various things 69 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:01,360 and um 70 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:02,959 i was sending that out and as much it 71 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:05,680 wasn't the focus of the c5 event it was 72 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:07,440 interesting that my radio was going off 73 00:03:13,750 --> 00:03:10,400 intermittently now i wasn't 74 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:13,760 sort of focusing on what's what that um 75 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:15,440 what that what the radio was doing too 76 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,239 much 77 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:18,640 but it was was kind of odd but it wasn't 78 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:20,159 until i heard this podcast that i 79 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:21,599 actually looked back 80 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:22,480 um 81 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:27,920 of the times and actually came it 82 00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:29,680 became that um 83 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:31,280 it seemed that actually i was actually 84 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:33,200 getting a response it wasn't just random 85 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:34,959 interference and noise 86 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,440 um so yeah i'm really quite fascinated 87 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:40,000 um to see you know where this goes i'm 88 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:41,760 waiting to see i think grant cameron is 89 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:43,840 going to put on a video soon on his 90 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:45,200 channel 91 00:03:48,149 --> 00:03:46,720 because i've only heard the audio so 92 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,159 fast and hope you see the videos as well 93 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:50,879 there's a load of really cool slides but 94 00:03:56,309 --> 00:03:53,360 essentially i think um what jimmy 95 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:56,319 blanchett is up to it does seem to be 96 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:57,599 what could be 97 00:04:01,030 --> 00:04:00,080 our first real contact if it goes down 98 00:04:02,149 --> 00:04:01,040 that road 99 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:02,159 um 100 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,319 you know let's let me ask joe let me ask 101 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:06,640 because that's interesting that the idea 102 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:09,280 and as you spoke about last time you you 103 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:12,560 practiced ce5 so with ce5 you generally 104 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:14,400 don't have to have any sort of physical 105 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:15,680 object to 106 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,919 potentially summon other craft or orbs 107 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:20,000 or or light beings whatever they might 108 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:22,240 be that people say they see 109 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:24,320 what's the purpose of of the radio 110 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:26,000 itself is that 111 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:28,560 as an addition as you see grant cameron 112 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:31,280 calling it ce6 and coining that 113 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:33,199 what's the purpose of the radio and what 114 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:36,639 sort of messages do you get on that end 115 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:39,360 it's interesting because um a lot of uh 116 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:41,360 what i've heard from c5 is that they are 117 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:43,840 trying to almost put technology away and 118 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:46,479 try and just focus on meditation and and 119 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:48,160 contact through 120 00:04:53,110 --> 00:04:51,120 through that um but i i am a kind of a 121 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:53,120 bit of a nuts and bolts person i'm quite 122 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:54,400 interested in 123 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:56,800 trying to get video evidence trying to 124 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:00,160 get any form of response on the radio so 125 00:05:04,469 --> 00:05:02,560 i think i've i've taken on a bit more of 126 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:04,479 a technical aspect of it but i 127 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:05,919 appreciate that other people in the 128 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:07,280 group may be more interested in the in 129 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:08,880 the i mean i am interested in the 130 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,639 meditation side and gaining contact with 131 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:12,080 that just you know i've kind of tried 132 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:15,600 broadening across different areas um 133 00:05:18,469 --> 00:05:17,039 so i'm just i'm just fascinated with the 134 00:05:20,230 --> 00:05:18,479 whole thing and interested to see you 135 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:20,240 know where this is going and what do 136 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:22,639 those responses come through like you 137 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:24,800 say you're sending a message out is it a 138 00:05:29,909 --> 00:05:27,199 voice is it is it morse code is it just 139 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:29,919 like as a frequency change so this is 140 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:32,479 the interesting thing um oh maybe 141 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:33,919 i'll tell you a bit about what jimmy's 142 00:05:38,310 --> 00:05:36,400 found is that um he's got two radios 143 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:38,320 side by side on the fest on the same 144 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:39,520 frequency 145 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:41,520 he then sends out this message out on 146 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,840 one radio and he only gets the response 147 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:45,680 back on one of the radios even though 148 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:46,960 they're both same frequency so 149 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:48,320 whatever's happening seems to be 150 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:50,560 breaking the laws of physics so to speak 151 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:54,479 because um it's it's uh if it was just 152 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:56,080 interference or something a message 153 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:58,000 coming from somewhere else that's using 154 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:59,680 another radio on the same frequency then 155 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:01,280 you'd expect the response to happen on 156 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:03,039 both radios 157 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,840 um 158 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:05,600 for me i get the same sponsor i haven't 159 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:06,800 got two radios at the moment so i 160 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:08,479 haven't been able to test this the same 161 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:11,280 thing but what i get is um 162 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,560 almost like 163 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:14,560 bursts of um what seems to be 164 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,919 interference 165 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:18,000 but there's all bursts in such a way 166 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:19,039 that 167 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:24,160 but when you kind of looked at it there 168 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:25,120 is 169 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:26,960 an element of what could be intelligence 170 00:06:30,309 --> 00:06:29,120 about it in terms of how the bursts are 171 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:30,319 the period 172 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:32,560 um the distance between the bursts so 173 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:34,479 i'm trying to sort of uh analyze it 174 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:36,400 myself so i haven't got anything 175 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:39,520 specific but um there does something be 176 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,360 something to it uh and the thing is when 177 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:43,440 the when those bursts end the radio 178 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:45,919 enters silent for ages so i don't know 179 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:48,240 if that means anything but it's 180 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:50,160 it doesn't seem completely random 181 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:51,759 if that makes sense 182 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:53,440 yeah sure like i say i've not listened 183 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:55,520 to that particular show from grant yet 184 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:57,680 i've seen it posted on on facebook and 185 00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:59,919 it's one i will be catching up on myself 186 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:02,160 um you had mentioned in your email 187 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:03,680 you've actually started your own podcast 188 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:05,440 now as well 189 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:07,520 yeah i'm diving into that i'm just 190 00:07:11,029 --> 00:07:09,199 fascinated by the subject and wanting to 191 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:11,039 add to the uh 192 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:13,280 to the list of options that people have 193 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:16,319 to to get get more information um it's 194 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,280 called up the vibe uh it's on it's on 195 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:21,919 apple podcasts and um spotify at the 196 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:24,479 moment um it's early days but uh yeah 197 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:26,800 it's i've actually managed to 198 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:29,280 potentially get jimmy blanchett it has 199 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:31,039 agreed potentially to be on the podcast 200 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:33,280 in in the next couple of months so 201 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:35,280 um so i'll let you know if if i do 202 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:37,120 manage to get him on and um and 203 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:39,039 obviously if you can get it on on your 204 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:40,240 show it'd be it would be amazing 205 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:42,400 including grant cameron and on the likes 206 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,639 of the others that have been involved 207 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,720 yeah i had grant on the middle of last 208 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:48,800 year i think it was so maybe someone to 209 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:51,520 reach out to again especially with the 210 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:53,199 happenings of the last few months and 211 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:55,280 the the amendments going through as part 212 00:08:00,629 --> 00:07:57,599 of the ndaa and get grants thoughts on 213 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:00,639 those so grant's an intense guy when he 214 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:02,080 talks so it's one you have to be 215 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:04,400 prepared for before you speak to him i 216 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:06,639 don't know he's great but he's his focus 217 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:08,000 is definitely going down the more the 218 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,280 more consciousness side of things and um 219 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:13,680 sort of going beyond uh the kind of you 220 00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:15,360 know lights in the sky and just and 221 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:16,879 thinking about it in in terms of you 222 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:18,080 know how to 223 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:21,680 um at like ce5 um sort of uh go beyond 224 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:23,440 um our own 225 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:25,599 uh current state of consciousness and 226 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:28,000 and elevate that to a point where we can 227 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:29,440 then communicate with them because i 228 00:08:33,269 --> 00:08:31,280 think there is a there are levels of 229 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:33,279 consciousness uh that's 230 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:36,080 um is is part of the equation and 231 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,919 it's it does seem that we need to raise 232 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,519 our consciousness and they maybe bring 233 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:41,919 theirs down for us to be able to 234 00:08:44,310 --> 00:08:43,440 to communicate with them i think there 235 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:44,320 is a 236 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:46,480 something to to be said for that that 237 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:47,440 theory 238 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:49,200 i want to ask everyone joe on the call 239 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,399 and this week uh what are your hopes for 240 00:08:57,509 --> 00:08:55,040 the gear ahead in 2022 what are you 241 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,519 hoping we achieve as a community or what 242 00:09:01,910 --> 00:08:59,760 do you hope to see as an individual 243 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:01,920 and from from the ufo community and ufo 244 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:03,519 world 245 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:04,560 um 246 00:09:08,310 --> 00:09:06,480 for me it's it's going to be an amazing 247 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:08,320 year i really feel it um it's already 248 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:11,200 started um in a huge way with lots lots 249 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:12,160 going on 250 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:13,760 and it's it's just going to get bigger 251 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:15,200 and bigger i think 252 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,080 um 253 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:18,480 there's just multi multiple strands of 254 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:21,600 um of change and it's not just the uh 255 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:23,200 the ndaa the gilly brand amendment 256 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:25,760 that's going on and how people in in 257 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:27,440 congress are now starting to discuss the 258 00:09:32,389 --> 00:09:30,160 subject and that the ending of of the 259 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:32,399 stigma around being able to discuss the 260 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:35,200 topic um it's also all the research 261 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:37,200 that's going on with avila webb and the 262 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:40,240 galileo project and uapx and that's 263 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:42,959 that's amazing um but there's also just 264 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:46,080 um the c5 and and that group just 265 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:48,240 expanding as well so there's almost 266 00:09:50,550 --> 00:09:49,360 various 267 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:50,560 um 268 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:52,880 ways that this the phenomenon is is 269 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,640 growing in terms of just people talking 270 00:09:58,870 --> 00:09:56,880 about it and getting engaged with it and 271 00:10:00,550 --> 00:09:58,880 it's it's just going to go 272 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,560 just get bigger and bigger and i i 273 00:10:05,350 --> 00:10:02,880 really do see 274 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:05,360 the next next few years being key but i 275 00:10:10,069 --> 00:10:07,920 really see a bright future really 276 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:10,079 awesome joe that's enough time for uh 277 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:11,279 that's all the time we've got for this 278 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:13,040 first call but good way to kick off the 279 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,800 show good way to kick off the new year 280 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:16,240 and i look forward to hearing a bit more 281 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:17,680 from you in the future especially when 282 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:18,720 you've got some 283 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:20,399 some more to report from your from your 284 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:22,480 radio experiments as well 285 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:25,680 oh thank you very much andy 286 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:28,079 next up we go from london to chicago 287 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:30,640 illinois and we have matt on the pod mat 288 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:33,360 welcome to the podcast hello what's up 289 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:35,279 it's good to be here it's good to have 290 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:37,760 you on uh matt the the floor is yours 291 00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:39,600 what'd you want to talk about 292 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:42,880 okay um well i'm uh 293 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:45,279 an independent researcher for um 294 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:48,079 basically pyramids in ancient cultures 295 00:10:51,509 --> 00:10:50,240 and all that stuff was just completely 296 00:10:53,509 --> 00:10:51,519 obsessed and 297 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:53,519 i hope it's okay to kind of like build 298 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:55,279 up to my question 299 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:56,880 um because 300 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:59,120 um obviously 301 00:11:02,949 --> 00:11:00,959 something's going on like when we get 302 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:02,959 cut the crap something is going on with 303 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:04,720 with our reality that 304 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:07,760 with the ufo stuff and with i know with 305 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:09,839 what the ancient egyptians supposedly 306 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:10,959 had built 307 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:13,120 like something isn't really quite adding 308 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:14,800 up because 309 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:17,040 you know you have these gigantic large 310 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:18,640 megalithic architectures that are all 311 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:19,760 around the world like why are there 312 00:11:24,069 --> 00:11:21,440 pyramids all around the world 313 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:24,079 there's a reason for it and i just 314 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:25,680 wanted to try to tie 315 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:28,480 some of these ideas together and kind of 316 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:31,200 just see what you think 317 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:32,720 we got the uh 318 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:35,920 obvious multiple human species we are 319 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:37,600 a hybrid species right we know that 320 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:40,160 there are neanderthals and denisovans 321 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:41,279 so 322 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:43,760 bottom line is we are a hybrid species 323 00:11:47,829 --> 00:11:46,560 um and you know you kind of would start 324 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,839 to ask like where does that even come 325 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:49,440 from where do we come from where to 326 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:50,399 start 327 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:52,560 um and then you can just fast forward 328 00:11:57,269 --> 00:11:54,240 time hundreds of thousands of years like 329 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:57,279 the birth of religion the birth of 330 00:12:00,949 --> 00:11:59,040 you know the religious experience and 331 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:00,959 psychedelics and what all that like 332 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,760 anybody can trip on psychedelics and 333 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:06,000 it's just i'm having a hard time 334 00:12:10,870 --> 00:12:08,320 like what is going on because the people 335 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:10,880 who are running the show are children 336 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:12,399 they don't know what they're doing and 337 00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:15,440 and it's like we're at this point where 338 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:18,880 obviously the globe is is coming to a a 339 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:20,639 higher self-awareness and it seems like 340 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,480 there's something trying to stop us 341 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:24,399 you know um i i really feel like we're 342 00:12:29,350 --> 00:12:27,680 on the cusp of uh evolving and i just 343 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:29,360 kind of wanted to see what you what your 344 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:31,440 thoughts were uh so yeah 345 00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:32,800 you mentioned that it's funny i was 346 00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:35,040 watching an old tom delonge interview 347 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:36,560 today for for something i'm going to be 348 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:39,279 bringing out soon and um it was from 349 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:42,240 2016 at one of his first big interviews 350 00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:44,240 on jimmy church fade to black 351 00:12:47,670 --> 00:12:45,519 and 352 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:47,680 it was i'm trying to listen to what tom 353 00:12:51,829 --> 00:12:49,680 was saying five and a half six years ago 354 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:51,839 as to to what happened and where his 355 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:53,760 journey went before ttsa and all that 356 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:54,800 kind of stuff 357 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:56,399 and again it was a lot of the same 358 00:13:00,310 --> 00:12:58,000 things that we have 359 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:00,320 these entities our forces our beings 360 00:13:05,269 --> 00:13:03,440 that aren't there for our own good that 361 00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:05,279 it was quite a negative message you know 362 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:07,440 that there's there's beings feeding off 363 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:10,000 of negativity and and we heard a lot of 364 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,920 that as well from other people before 365 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:13,120 tom but 366 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:14,480 tom's obviously came out a bit more 367 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:16,959 recently than a lot of those folks 368 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:18,399 and 369 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:20,160 it goes back to again these statements 370 00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:21,839 that our history is not what we've been 371 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:22,880 told 372 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:24,480 obviously when you talk about egypt and 373 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:26,000 the pyramids 374 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,519 it doesn't necessarily go back as far as 375 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:29,760 like fifteen seventy thousand years but 376 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:31,839 louis elizondo on the cut giant mungo 377 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:33,760 theories of everything mentioned that at 378 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:36,399 some point around 70 000 years ago 379 00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:38,800 our our dna got like a help along the 380 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:40,320 way a little bit of a boost and all of a 381 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:41,920 sudden we became the kind of apex 382 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:44,399 predators the top species on the planet 383 00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:46,320 and and you're right and when you fast 384 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:48,399 forward to times like you know we all 385 00:13:53,110 --> 00:13:50,560 know egyptians built the pyramids 386 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:53,120 apparently um how they built them is 387 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:55,040 obviously still way up for debate these 388 00:13:58,150 --> 00:13:56,560 days i know you see these videos don't 389 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:58,160 you where well they could have just done 390 00:14:01,269 --> 00:13:59,600 this and they could have just done this 391 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:01,279 but then you find out that the blocks 392 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:05,040 used were brought from so far away 393 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:06,880 and it's just like surely and with the 394 00:14:12,069 --> 00:14:08,959 complex nature of how they were built 395 00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:12,079 the mathematics and the the geology to 396 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:13,760 line them up where they did with the 397 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:14,880 stars 398 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:16,720 is incredible and would be so hard for 399 00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:18,480 us to do with our own technology and how 400 00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:20,800 they built them inside and 401 00:14:24,629 --> 00:14:22,560 and then like you say for similar 402 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:24,639 structures almost identical to be found 403 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:26,639 around the world as well 404 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:28,800 it's not like language developing 405 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:30,720 where different dialects and tones 406 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:32,720 develop but you're a similar species 407 00:14:36,629 --> 00:14:34,720 they've built the exact same buildings 408 00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:36,639 and like you see as it doesn't go as far 409 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:38,399 as indiana jones where it's just 410 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:40,480 pyramids are spaceships and 411 00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:43,199 maybe not but as it there to channel 412 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:45,440 some sort of frequency or for contact 413 00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:46,480 and 414 00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:48,959 yeah it's i absolutely am all for if 415 00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:50,480 people listen to the podcast regular 416 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:52,079 like i've mentioned a couple of times 417 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:53,040 that 418 00:14:56,870 --> 00:14:55,199 egyptians got help building the pyramids 419 00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:56,880 and i imagine these things are dotted 420 00:15:02,230 --> 00:14:59,519 around the planet for a reason what that 421 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:02,240 reason is i'm not entirely sure why 422 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:04,240 would you go through the effort because 423 00:15:08,389 --> 00:15:06,000 it's not the most 424 00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:08,399 it's it's they're doing it as 425 00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:10,800 as difficult as possible you mentioned 426 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:13,519 that they're going 500 miles away to get 427 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:14,959 granite so that means they're going 428 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:16,880 around looking for a specific type of 429 00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:19,680 stone it pyramids are weird man and i do 430 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:21,199 believe that not all of it is good 431 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:23,680 because sometimes i do get kind of a 432 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:26,240 a weird not good feeling and if i can 433 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:27,600 drop a little bit of information i just 434 00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:30,240 figured out yesterday if you pull up the 435 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:31,839 google map 436 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:34,720 because i'm sure you've seen um a lot of 437 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:37,920 the masonic um imagery where you get 438 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,320 like a trunk inverted triangle yeah so 439 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:42,720 i'm looking at egypt 440 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:44,480 where the pyramids the great pyramids in 441 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:45,920 giza in 442 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:47,920 funny enough the opposite end of the 443 00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:49,839 planet almost exactly is where the 444 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:53,519 pyramids of uh tio tabron in uh mexico 445 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,399 it's and and we know that like 80 000 446 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,000 people were murdered 447 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:00,240 in that sort of place and it's like it 448 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,120 almost completes this picture for me 449 00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:04,800 whatever the pyramid and inverted 450 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:06,880 pyramid means it's it's like on this 451 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:08,959 planet and it's just like what's going 452 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:10,480 on now 453 00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:12,560 again does the idea is it like like a 454 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:13,839 pole where you've got a north and a 455 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:15,360 south pole but you've got a pyramid at 456 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:16,720 one end a pyramid at the other and 457 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,720 they're drawing in some sort of energy 458 00:16:22,389 --> 00:16:20,240 are they sending out messages are they 459 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:22,399 there for receiving messages 460 00:16:25,829 --> 00:16:24,240 is it something that's lying dormant is 461 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:25,839 it something that's now totally defunct 462 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,480 is just is it just a relic that that was 463 00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:31,040 used thousands of years ago but at this 464 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:33,839 point it is just that and it's not 465 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:36,880 really there to be awoken anymore but i 466 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:40,079 i can tell you a story i i worked with a 467 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:42,800 guy who was a radio dj um around various 468 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:44,560 different places in the middle east and 469 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:46,320 and stuff like that not like a celebrity 470 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,399 or anything like but he was a he was 471 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:50,560 doing some work with eyework 472 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,720 and he told me him and his wife where 473 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:54,560 when they were based in egypt there was 474 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,959 a huge blackout one night and all these 475 00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,800 lights started dancing around the top of 476 00:17:01,509 --> 00:17:00,240 the pyramids 477 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:01,519 they said literally the lights were out 478 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:02,880 for a few minutes and everyone was 479 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:04,480 standing watching these things 480 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:07,039 uh no reporting of on the news no talk 481 00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:09,039 about it it was very much everyone saw 482 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:11,360 these things you know because i think 483 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,120 the view of the pyramids you tend to see 484 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:15,039 and i was quite old when i realized this 485 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:16,720 but you think they're out in the middle 486 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:18,000 of the desert but they're not if you 487 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,360 look at the other view if you look like 488 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:21,280 a google map they're right next to the 489 00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:22,959 cities that i mean there's literally a 490 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:25,439 motorway not too far from the from the 491 00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:27,679 pyramids and he said there was thousands 492 00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:29,039 and thousands of people who saw these 493 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:30,720 lights flying about the pyramids and 494 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:32,799 then lights came back on and they went 495 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:35,440 um so again stuff like that to me is is 496 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:37,760 fascinating but i'll need to get someone 497 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,200 on i think in the future who's a bit of 498 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,840 a a specialist in the subject but 499 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:43,120 well i think you just need to ask the 500 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,200 right questions i mean it's it's 501 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,520 man it just begs the question like 502 00:17:52,310 --> 00:17:49,360 there's stuff here right 503 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:52,320 like isn't it more likely that there is 504 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:53,679 something here that we don't understand 505 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:55,600 that's watching us then which is 506 00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:57,760 possible too but then traveling hundreds 507 00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:59,520 of light years away to come here from 508 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:00,400 outside 509 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:03,039 like just likely is it more likely and 510 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:05,120 when i see the tic tac or try to imagine 511 00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:07,120 it zipping around and interacting with 512 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,039 something in the ocean like 513 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:12,000 dude what's going on what is happening 514 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:14,640 this is it makes life more exciting to 515 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:17,760 be honest and kind of scary i i was on 516 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:19,919 there sean rash witness citizen last 517 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:21,280 night and sean had asked me what i 518 00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:22,640 thought about you know phenomenon and 519 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:24,559 what had changed in my opinion over the 520 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:26,640 course of doing the podcast and i said 521 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,200 just that that you come into the subject 522 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:31,120 with an interest normally and it's 523 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:32,720 aliens coming from other planets and 524 00:18:37,510 --> 00:18:34,720 what's going on and then as you go along 525 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:37,520 you evolve and you yourself and you you 526 00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:39,280 you come up with different theories 527 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:40,799 based on what other people have said and 528 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:42,320 you take bits and pieces of other 529 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,760 people's opinion and you kind of form 530 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:45,039 your own 531 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,559 and i really do think and like i told 532 00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:47,840 sean that 533 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:49,679 you've got to a point where there is 534 00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:51,280 stuff coming from other planets but 535 00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:52,960 maybe they're drones 536 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:54,720 more than likely are they manned are 537 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:56,640 they not potentially does it happen as 538 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:59,200 often as we think who knows but i do 539 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,960 think there's something else here 540 00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,880 it's probably been here for for a long 541 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,960 time i think even some of the movies i 542 00:19:08,789 --> 00:19:06,720 saw the last can of 10 15 years like the 543 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,799 war of the worlds movies they show you 544 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:10,400 that uh these things are already here 545 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:12,559 they were in the ground and 546 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:14,240 what's lying about this planet under the 547 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,799 water under the ice of antarctica you 548 00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:18,000 know that's what i've always said i want 549 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:20,559 to do a show on the podcast but it's 550 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:21,760 it's an awkward one because there's a 551 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:24,480 lot of woo in in speculation when you go 552 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,360 into that that conversation but 553 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:29,440 for me i think there's a lot that points 554 00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:32,240 to whether it's religious imagery uh 555 00:19:36,070 --> 00:19:34,240 hieroglyphics in the pyramids cave 556 00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:36,080 paintings there's been stuff flying 557 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,760 about in the skies for for thousands of 558 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,760 years before anyone could say yeah it's 559 00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:41,039 just a drone 560 00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:43,120 which is the frustrating argument these 561 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:44,559 days i think 562 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:48,080 well even if it is it's like why 563 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:49,919 why the secrecy if there is something 564 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:51,280 here why 565 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:53,280 is there no communication between two or 566 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:54,799 maybe maybe it is really 567 00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,240 inter-dimensional 568 00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:58,400 and there's like an earth to and for 569 00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:59,440 whatever reason there's these weird 570 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:01,600 portholes where they can sort of i don't 571 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:02,559 know dude 572 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,520 the reality is bird because three 573 00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:07,600 uh dimensions is 574 00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:10,080 almost impossible to honestly comprehend 575 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:11,360 um and and 576 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:13,760 i supposedly there's up to nine so i 577 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,120 mean that means there could be creatures 578 00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:17,200 from each dimension 579 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:18,400 like 580 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:19,679 you know and they're just saying what's 581 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:20,720 up 582 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:23,360 we're running out of time do you want to 583 00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:24,880 mention your own youtube channel because 584 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:26,720 i know i've been on that myself 585 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:29,760 i would like to do that if anyone has uh 586 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:31,360 found anything that i that i said 587 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:32,880 interesting i do have a youtube channel 588 00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,320 trying to grow it's called 777 creations 589 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,000 it's the channel name and uh my name is 590 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:39,679 matt and um 591 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,080 yeah i appreciate you uh giving me an 592 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,840 opportunity to do this that's all right 593 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:45,120 it's been good talking and we'll 594 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,640 definitely call in 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00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:53,360 safe technology reduces cuts and nicks 624 00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:55,600 on your delicate orbs and also comes 625 00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,640 equipped with a 4000 k led spotlight 626 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,320 that will shine a light that puts those 627 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,120 phoenix lights to shame folks remember 628 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:06,000 get 20 off and free shipping with the 629 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:09,919 code and the ufo at manscape.com after 630 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,840 the break i've got dan joining me for a 631 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,760 couple of calls dan welcome to the 632 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,440 podcast finally 633 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,360 it's uh it's good to jump in halfway 634 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:19,520 halfway through roughly it's halfway 635 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,960 through yeah through the magic of 636 00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:22,320 editing it makes it sound like you've 637 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:23,840 just jumped on halfway through a couple 638 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:26,240 hours of recording um so next up we've 639 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,360 got sloan out in idaho sloan how are we 640 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:31,520 i'm doing fantastic how about yourself 641 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,280 yeah awesome really good to speak to you 642 00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,919 second time on the podcast as well 643 00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,679 sloan at the floor is yours what do i 644 00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:39,039 talk about 645 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,559 uh so i've been listening to a lot of 646 00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:42,799 jiron ramirez and his interviews he's 647 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,039 been doing recently and uh 648 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:47,679 you know he talked that he went to a 649 00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,400 conference that didn't appear to be like 650 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:52,159 uh top secret or anything because it was 651 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:53,679 just held at like a hotel conference 652 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,400 room 653 00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,080 and that he was given this information 654 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,840 had to cell phone on him and he 655 00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,200 specifically talked about how he was 656 00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:02,000 told that humans are are hybrids between 657 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:03,919 aliens and it happened like something 70 658 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:05,760 000 years ago i just want to hear your 659 00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:07,840 guys's thoughts on that if you had heard 660 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,799 that i mean 661 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,240 what are your thoughts 662 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:12,640 so this is a timely conversation because 663 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:15,200 i've i've had this chat uh publicly on 664 00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,840 twitter just on and on discord and 665 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,520 privately it's came up in the the group 666 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,840 chat with dan and some of us from uap 667 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,600 media just on john ramirez because he's 668 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,960 still out there and still doing 669 00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:27,120 interviews and still still talking which 670 00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:28,159 is great 671 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,039 and 672 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:31,039 i can't claim to have heard every one of 673 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,320 his interviews because he's been really 674 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,480 generous to put himself out there so 675 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,640 short of a couple he's done as well as 676 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,240 my own 677 00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,640 it's an interesting one because he has 678 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:42,240 come on the scene 679 00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,200 and very quickly said a lot 680 00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:47,440 i think instantly people compare him to 681 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,960 loyola zondo 682 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,960 um take a shot if you have we're playing 683 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,559 the loyola zondo game how many times i 684 00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,480 mention his name but you have to compare 685 00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:56,480 him to lou and 686 00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,919 lou built up what he said over a period 687 00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:01,039 of time 688 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,000 and it was very reserved at first and i 689 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:06,000 think as time has gone on he said a lot 690 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,240 more and been a lot more open 691 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:10,320 john kind of came straight out the back 692 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,360 talking 693 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:14,080 hybrids potential cataclysms time travel 694 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:15,360 all the stuff that we've been hearing 695 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:16,880 and 696 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:22,159 john's a lovely guy i 697 00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,080 personally i'll be really honest and see 698 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:26,640 i get a little confused sometimes 699 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,880 where the line blurs between john's 700 00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:30,000 opinion 701 00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,360 and has 702 00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,840 assumed knowledge but then also has his 703 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,159 actual knowledge from his position 704 00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,159 and that that for me can be quite 705 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,480 confusing because with some people i can 706 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:42,720 tell this is what they think this is 707 00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:44,960 their opinion and then this is what they 708 00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,600 know and they call the line whereas john 709 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,240 just seems to just seems to go in terms 710 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,360 of conversation um dan 711 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:54,960 i mean what what are your thoughts with 712 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:56,799 mr ramirez 713 00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,720 not not too different to be honest i i i 714 00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,240 have listened to all of his interviews 715 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,919 literally every single one 716 00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,799 um 717 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,159 and 718 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,400 he's over the course of 719 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,159 all of those interviews he's gone from 720 00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:12,320 labeling his speculation fully and 721 00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,520 properly to incorporate in it within the 722 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,200 sections where he's talking about things 723 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,760 that affect so whereas the beginning he 724 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,360 he had 725 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:23,039 there was this whole presentation where 726 00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,640 he was talking about which agencies 727 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,799 handled what type of data how you would 728 00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,039 fire them why you would foyer them um 729 00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,120 and that stuff was all really useful and 730 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:33,520 then it went into the speculation about 731 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,960 the badges and what the mission badges 732 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,080 could mean and then talking about 733 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:37,760 reptilians and then a couple of 734 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:40,080 interviews later he was an experiencer 735 00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,600 and this story started kind of pouring 736 00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:43,600 out and i'm not 737 00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,520 in the position to say whether this is 738 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,520 all true or not um 739 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:49,600 it's just that i i agree i think he 740 00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:52,240 mixes his speculation in with the facts 741 00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,840 and it ends up confusing people 742 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,520 um there was an element of me that 743 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,480 thought he explained a bit that the cia 744 00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:02,640 kind of stirs the pot 745 00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,840 and then he began to stir the pot and i 746 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,600 just literally just explained this is 747 00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:09,039 what you do and now you're doing it to 748 00:26:12,870 --> 00:26:10,400 us um 749 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,880 but again i don't know for sure um it's 750 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,960 just one of those plates the unknown 751 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,080 plates that we're gonna have to keep 752 00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,880 spinning but for me he's 753 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,720 some people may see him as on par with 754 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:23,200 lou but i i would disagree 755 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:26,320 just because of how how aware of the 756 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,440 audience 757 00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:29,200 lou and chris mellon and people like 758 00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,559 that are you know when they set out in 759 00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,320 five pillars kind of plan 760 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:34,799 there was an obvious kind of 761 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:37,360 idea to drop breadcrumbs and slowly you 762 00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:40,240 know lead lead the horse to water um but 763 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,559 as lou like to say you know if you 764 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:44,559 make i think this was slow 765 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:45,360 uh 766 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:46,640 you you can 767 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,679 you know 768 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:49,600 drown a horse if you give it too much 769 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:51,760 water so to speak um and i think that's 770 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:54,960 what john does to a certain extent 771 00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:57,039 yeah i would say i want to ask you 772 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:58,400 sloane because 773 00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,679 something that kind of comes up in the 774 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,400 conversation is like disinformation and 775 00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:04,559 do you think john ramirez is someone who 776 00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,159 is trying to get involved in the 777 00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,919 conversation and just having a good time 778 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:10,080 doing that sharing his opinion and and 779 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,200 being 780 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,159 quite a big name very quickly if you 781 00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:16,320 look at any of his interviews if you 782 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,600 look at the main channels that have 783 00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:19,039 talked to him 784 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,240 some of their bigger interviews and 785 00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,520 bigger numbers are off of john ramirez 786 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,559 and is it just a case of he is enjoying 787 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:28,000 his discussions his time in the 788 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,760 community what he's seeing 789 00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:32,240 do you think he's potentially 790 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,760 deliberately putting himself out there 791 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,360 as a bit of misinformation 792 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,600 disinformation or 793 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:39,520 is it something in between 794 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,279 i i think honestly i'm maybe i'm a 795 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:44,799 middle-of-the-road person but i think it 796 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:46,480 might be something in between uh the 797 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,360 reason being is because like he said cia 798 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,279 does do disinformation like they put 799 00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,440 stuff out there or they what do you say 800 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,960 controlled disclosure something like 801 00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,279 that where they'll have a certain time 802 00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,000 line that they want things to like leak 803 00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:02,799 out and the fact that where he got 804 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,679 the whole humans as hybrids was uh 805 00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:07,679 kind of a not really public forum but it 806 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,200 wasn't like top secret right it wasn't 807 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,279 in like one of those things where you 808 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,960 can't get any signals in or out that 809 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,320 sort of thing it was at a hotel 810 00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,320 conference room he had a cell phone on 811 00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,080 him he saw the people that were there 812 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,159 and he even said it was like i'm not 813 00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,320 sure why they had this and it wasn't 814 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,159 like top secret right there was 815 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,520 university professors so maybe this was 816 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:27,039 something they wanted to leak right 817 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:28,320 maybe this is something that they wanted 818 00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,600 to put out there 819 00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:31,360 uh reason for it did it follow the 820 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:33,440 timetable was it something that it's 821 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:36,159 disinformation i i wouldn't be able to 822 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:39,200 say i do think it's interesting like 823 00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,080 uh 824 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,159 you know lou did say something about our 825 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,720 history you know humans changed 70 000 826 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,640 years ago and john even referred back to 827 00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,240 that um 828 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:50,399 and i was actually in college i read a 829 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:51,200 few 830 00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,480 studies 831 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,039 one was about uh the russian silvertale 832 00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,440 foxes and how in 20 generations they 833 00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:59,279 were able to domesticate them 834 00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:02,000 and how uh they became kind of like dogs 835 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,520 right they had floppier ears not as 836 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,760 pointy as snouts they weren't didn't 837 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,320 even have silver tails anymore um all 838 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,000 that stuff and it's like we did that 839 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,640 with with wolves right that's our modern 840 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,600 dog our best friends and so i don't even 841 00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:17,600 think you have to get as technical like 842 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,559 as aliens intervening and uh you know 843 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,720 genetically putting their dna into us 844 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,520 like 845 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,760 uh looking at humans we kind of share 846 00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:27,279 some of those telltale signs of 847 00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:29,440 domestication right we have bigger eyes 848 00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,520 bigger brain capacities less musculature 849 00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:33,120 less hair 850 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:35,120 all that stuff that kind of went along 851 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:36,960 with that there was a follow-up study to 852 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,520 the russian silvertale fox 853 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,279 study where they were checking 854 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,600 non-verbal communication and they wanted 855 00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,960 to know if that was a carryover from 856 00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,799 wolves or if that was something that was 857 00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:49,200 specific to domestication and so they 858 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,799 tested the domesticated russian silver 859 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,080 tail foxes 860 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,440 dogs wolves chimpanzees wild as well as 861 00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,360 uh raised by humans 862 00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:59,679 and the three that actually had the best 863 00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:01,520 nonverbal communication were dogs 864 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,679 domesticated russian silver tail foxes 865 00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:05,200 and chimpanzees that were raised by 866 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,240 humans 867 00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,679 wolves didn't have happen at all so it 868 00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:09,679 wasn't something that carried on and so 869 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,960 um 870 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:12,559 you know if i was like elon musk and i 871 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:14,159 had billions of dollars that i could 872 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,559 blow i think i would i would invest in a 873 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,200 multi-generational study of 874 00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,120 domesticating chimpanzees or some other 875 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,559 great ape and seeing if they end up 876 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,919 becoming more like human because i don't 877 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:25,120 think 878 00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,399 this is just my personal belief i don't 879 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,240 think you have to go as crazy as oh we 880 00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,799 have alien dna to get the same results 881 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,919 as uh 882 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,240 of what humans are what separates us 883 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,200 from uh from other animals 884 00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:39,360 it's just domestication we're just like 885 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:42,320 very domesticated primates is my thought 886 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,760 and that's that's what i got reading 887 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:46,080 those studies in college 888 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,440 maybe we're already at the end of 889 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,360 someone's study and uh yeah this is the 890 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,200 kind of final chapter let's just say 891 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,880 yeah this is where that's letting it run 892 00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:54,720 wild right yeah just see what happens 893 00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,960 yeah daniel you went on that raise a uh 894 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,799 an interesting point though like 895 00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,320 the hybrids is another one of these 896 00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,919 terms that we all use 897 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,080 but we all probably mean very different 898 00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:06,000 things by it you know some people think 899 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,600 when we say hybrids they think of you 900 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:09,519 know aliens in lab splicing jeans and 901 00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,679 then creating clones and 902 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:13,679 you know armies to dig for gold so the 903 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,720 story goes um whereas it could be as 904 00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,880 subtle as panspermia and certain 905 00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:20,640 molecules coming into our environment 906 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:23,120 and becoming part of the ecosystems that 907 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:26,320 are our our bodies um and just changing 908 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,240 it that way and 909 00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:30,559 when when lou talks about that kind of 910 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,279 explosive growth 70k years ago 911 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,000 and the issue of cataclysms keeps coming 912 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,080 up um i know a lot of ancient 913 00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,840 civilization studies 914 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:41,679 or research kind of goes down the rabbit 915 00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:43,679 hole of maybe there was a cataclysm 916 00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:44,840 before 917 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,240 and people from a smaller but civilized 918 00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,320 society kind of spread out on the earth 919 00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:52,399 to domesticate the rest of us so it's 920 00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,679 interesting that you're kind of thinking 921 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:55,120 that way but from a different angle as 922 00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,919 well 923 00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,320 yeah like i said or maybe you know where 924 00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,559 some aliens uh elon musk that had 925 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,760 billions dollars wanted to see what 926 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,120 would happen if they domesticated 927 00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,480 primates and see 928 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:06,480 what they turned into right 929 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:08,720 yeah absolutely and it makes you wonder 930 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,360 as well you know in in the other kind of 931 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,440 eons of the earth's history 932 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,600 is is this just hour ago is this the 933 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,000 apes go you know before you know when we 934 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,000 talk about things that are as crazy as 935 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,000 for example reptilians 936 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,320 maybe you know in the billions of years 937 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,240 this planet has been around maybe there 938 00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:29,200 were some extra smart bipedal reptilians 939 00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,679 walking around um it gets pretty crazy 940 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:33,279 pretty quickly but this is why i think 941 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,640 it's important to kind of label the 942 00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:36,960 speculation and label the fact you know 943 00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,039 yeah this is totally our speculation 944 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,799 right like i think it's interesting 945 00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:42,799 along those same lines like uh graham 946 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:45,039 hancock usually says uh 947 00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:47,279 humans are a species with amnesia right 948 00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,480 because we only think really in our 949 00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,080 terms of our lifetime which let's say 950 00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,799 best estimate 70 to 80 years right 951 00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:53,919 whereas 952 00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:56,559 and we have history back what 5000 bc 953 00:33:02,710 --> 00:32:59,840 something like that uh whereas humans as 954 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:02,720 as homo sapien have been around what 200 955 00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:04,240 i think i just read something today 956 00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:07,760 where it was like 230 000 years as homo 957 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:11,039 sapiens they just pushed it back uh so 958 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,080 how many 959 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,080 like histories of our known history that 960 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,600 we know of now 961 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,320 have have come and gone in that you know 962 00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:21,120 230 000 years when we really 963 00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,559 only have archaeology back five years so 964 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,799 yeah yeah absolutely there was a study i 965 00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,760 can't remember 966 00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,840 the year before it was a 967 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:31,679 uh old settlement i think was just 968 00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:34,640 outside israel and it got hit by a 969 00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:35,679 meteor 970 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:37,919 and the study basically found that it 971 00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:40,559 was so hot that if a modern-day car had 972 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:42,399 been there it would have melted to 973 00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:43,440 liquid 974 00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:46,640 within like 0.1 of a second and people 975 00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,320 always say well where is the technology 976 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:50,159 it's like well i mean if something like 977 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,840 that happened there's simply not going 978 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,440 to be anything there 979 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,320 right 980 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:56,080 yeah i agree 981 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,519 just as we run out of time slow and i 982 00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:59,039 want to ask everyone on this call and 983 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,880 it's the the new year new month and all 984 00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,039 that first of 2022 985 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:05,360 what are your realistic expectations and 986 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,760 hopes when it comes to ufos in 2022 987 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:12,800 uh i'm really hoping the galileo project 988 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,960 uh like actually gives us some good 989 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,200 information as well as the new uh 990 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:19,919 telescope what is it the 991 00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,320 james webb telescope gives us some some 992 00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:25,119 good data um and maybe this is the whole 993 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,879 point of why this is all happening now 994 00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,000 is because we have things like the 995 00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,839 galileo project things like the james 996 00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:31,919 webb telescope 997 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,240 so my realistic expectations is we'll 998 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,919 probably get i mean we've been kind of 999 00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,000 spoiled since 2017 let's be completely 1000 00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,040 honest so uh i would say maybe just more 1001 00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,879 of the same maybe not at an accelerated 1002 00:34:46,829 --> 00:34:45,200 rate but just more info more data 1003 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:46,839 they're like oh we found a planet that 1004 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,760 has uh life that we can see through the 1005 00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,079 james wood scope there's there's certain 1006 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,000 molecules that only life can create like 1007 00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:55,679 methane or whatever 1008 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:59,040 that's that's my expectation uh 1009 00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:00,720 you know my my 1010 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,119 wildest if i had my wish that we would 1011 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,760 just be like yeah ufos have been around 1012 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,440 we'll get actual that 1013 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,400 disclosure with a capital d 1014 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,520 awesome 1015 00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:12,880 really good to talk to you again and 1016 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,240 hopefully hear from you next time okay 1017 00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:16,960 man yes sir and always a pleasure 1018 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,119 and finally we go from idaho to 1019 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,359 washington and we have dahlia joining us 1020 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,520 dahlia welcome to the podcast 1021 00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,640 hi i'm so happy to be here today very 1022 00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,119 exciting for me it's exciting for us to 1023 00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:30,560 finally speak to you because we've spoke 1024 00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,079 online a few times back and forward 1025 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,320 haven't we so it's uh it's nice to put a 1026 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,920 face to the name as well which is always 1027 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,880 good 1028 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:38,640 yes absolutely 1029 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,240 dahlia the floor is yours what do you 1030 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,839 want to talk about 1031 00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,720 huh 1032 00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,680 okay well um 1033 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:47,440 i've been thinking especially over the 1034 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,040 last two years about the way that humans 1035 00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,200 behave and the things that we do to each 1036 00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,280 other and 1037 00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:57,119 obviously we have a lot of behaviors 1038 00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:58,960 that are not 1039 00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,920 uh beneficial for our survival 1040 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,560 and i got to thinking like you know why 1041 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,240 a lot of this doesn't make sense i mean 1042 00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:08,640 even if you just think about like 1043 00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:09,599 war 1044 00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,800 and 1045 00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:13,359 racism or sexism or 1046 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,359 um you know being super territorial just 1047 00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:19,200 in general 1048 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,240 by the violent behavior that humans 1049 00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,240 display towards each other like why do 1050 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:26,720 we do that because obviously that's not 1051 00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:29,680 we're not doing ourselves any favors 1052 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,839 with this behavior and it doesn't make 1053 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,079 any logical sense and we are logical 1054 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:36,320 beings 1055 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:38,800 and it's almost like 1056 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,440 there could possibly be 1057 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,119 a force coming or a forces coming from 1058 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:47,200 somewhere else 1059 00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:48,000 that 1060 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,119 is 1061 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,079 making us judge ourselves 1062 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,240 and then i read the three body problem 1063 00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:57,520 and my brain exploded because i thought 1064 00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,720 and i don't know if you guys have read 1065 00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:00,079 it yet i've been bugging you guys to 1066 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,280 read it 1067 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,760 i i am half i am halfway through i can 1068 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,359 confirm right now halfway through the 1069 00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:07,920 month i i need to catch up a little bit 1070 00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,320 to get ahead so i can record the show 1071 00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:12,079 talking about it by the end of the month 1072 00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,000 but i will have done that i i will have 1073 00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:15,920 done that so yeah i'm halfway through 1074 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,880 right now 1075 00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,040 it's fascinating and i you know i try to 1076 00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:20,720 talk to people in my life about it and 1077 00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,720 they're like what are you what like what 1078 00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:24,480 are you talking about 1079 00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,599 but 1080 00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:27,839 i just i've wondered if there's 1081 00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,400 something occurring on a level that we 1082 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:32,079 can't recognize 1083 00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,240 and in the three-body problem it's like 1084 00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:36,079 a sub-atomic 1085 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,440 level 1086 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,839 but that is 1087 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:42,240 you know making us do things like almost 1088 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,599 like you know we're kind of like 1089 00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:45,440 puppetry 1090 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,560 um 1091 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,720 and i normally i was saying this in a 1092 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,119 message to you um 1093 00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:53,440 i normally am kind of a loving light 1094 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:01,030 and that's just like my own experience 1095 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:02,240 but 1096 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,480 and and to me it could be it could be 1097 00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,880 many things like there can be 1098 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,119 you know what we would perceive to be 1099 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:12,800 good aliens and what we would perceive 1100 00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,560 from our human 1101 00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:17,280 uh through our human lens to be bad 1102 00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:18,880 aliens 1103 00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:21,119 um 1104 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:22,160 but 1105 00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,440 yeah well like why are we doing this 1106 00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,839 why why are we killing each other that 1107 00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,599 doesn't make any sense if you really 1108 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:31,599 think about it it's like why like what 1109 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,640 like 1110 00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,200 where are these ideas coming from 1111 00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,119 so timing wise it's relatively good 1112 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:39,599 dahlia because uh i can say this now 1113 00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:40,960 this is going this show is going to go 1114 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,480 out and 1115 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,240 a day basically it might go out tonight 1116 00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,720 on premium for patreon and apple premium 1117 00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:48,800 and spotify premium people but um in the 1118 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,640 next day or so but 1119 00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:52,480 dan and i were working on a show just 1120 00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:55,119 now where we're going to be profiling uh 1121 00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,280 tom de long and it's going to be part 1122 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,599 one part two maybe a part three with 1123 00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,680 part one being a lot of tom delong's 1124 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,079 experiences and claims before to the 1125 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:06,560 stars academy came around uh 1126 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,359 and 1127 00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,599 before we knew who luella's on the was 1128 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:10,960 and that chris miller was involved as 1129 00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,280 heavily with ufos and all of that and 1130 00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,359 listening back in the research part of 1131 00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,520 it to some of the old interviews on on 1132 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,359 jimmy church or various television 1133 00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,839 interviews or snippets that dan sent me 1134 00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,280 over that he stored in a wonderful 1135 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,920 folder that he's got um 1136 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:27,599 tom talks about that quite a lot i mean 1137 00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,320 this is back in 2016. doesn't it done 1138 00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,920 with 1139 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,079 outside forces who 1140 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,400 want to see the human race you know do 1141 00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:39,200 harm that they feed off of negativity 1142 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,960 and war 1143 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,800 and you know and fear-mongering and all 1144 00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,320 that kind of stuff so 1145 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:46,160 it's interesting that that tom brought 1146 00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,079 that up and 1147 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:50,000 it's never really gone much further from 1148 00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,599 those conversations that he had back 1149 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,640 then even though he still kind of 1150 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,880 mentions it now as as to what may or may 1151 00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:57,280 not be influencing that anymore but 1152 00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,119 it seems to be that there are people 1153 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:00,960 quite high up that have hinted at this 1154 00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:03,920 to tom and other people as well 1155 00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,359 then uh what are your thoughts on that 1156 00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:09,119 well it reminded me of tom as well but 1157 00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,119 in another way we spoke the other day 1158 00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,040 about um 1159 00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,280 tom said that he didn't sleep for a few 1160 00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,119 nights and was made uneasy and we were 1161 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,920 talking about what we thought caused 1162 00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,359 that 1163 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,680 and we the the conversation 1164 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:26,640 went down the road of 1165 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,119 knowing for certain that you don't know 1166 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,920 what reality truly is and not being 1167 00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,920 certain of even just the room that 1168 00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,000 you're in let alone the space and the 1169 00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,560 people outside of that and and then tom 1170 00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,359 went off and spoke about um how his 1171 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,720 mother sees the world through a really 1172 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:44,880 religious lands and she would see these 1173 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,920 forces as angels or demons and talk 1174 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,960 about him in that way and we know 1175 00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,960 there's kind of supposedly religious sex 1176 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:52,400 inside the pentagon 1177 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:55,760 who think of it in this way as well um 1178 00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,880 finding finding that common language for 1179 00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,800 these kind of invisible things whether 1180 00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,319 we're going to call them you know gin 1181 00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,839 angels demons 1182 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:05,839 you know the lady of fatima 1183 00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,160 all these kind of different names um 1184 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,079 it's going to be really important for 1185 00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,400 for humanity to address this 1186 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:17,349 if the phenomena is 1187 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:18,560 one thing 1188 00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:22,960 appearing as another thing and can 1189 00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:25,839 manipulate our consciousness then 1190 00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,319 all bets are kind of off the table 1191 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,480 quite frankly um 1192 00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,400 you know it 1193 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,560 it reminds me of the the bees that can 1194 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,240 kind of change the the frequency of 1195 00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:38,160 their wings to make another 1196 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,960 uh bee that isn't a predator to to their 1197 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,720 prey so they can kind of go into their 1198 00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:44,240 hive and just kind of 1199 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,359 have their fail um and 1200 00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,359 it worries me in some ways i'm i'm a 1201 00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,599 little like you uh dolly a little love 1202 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:54,319 and light except during um 1203 00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:57,280 doing what people call ce5 once i i just 1204 00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:58,800 got a sense that i was looking at the 1205 00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,520 kind of the light in front of the the 1206 00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,760 lanternfish you know and and i just 1207 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,839 thought oh you know maybe they're not 1208 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,160 all 11 like maybe to just say oh the 1209 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,160 benevolent is is actually quite naive on 1210 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,520 my part and there's going to be a much 1211 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:13,200 larger scope and a weirder thing to get 1212 00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:15,760 our heads around 1213 00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,319 yeah i i wonder 1214 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,680 if 1215 00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:21,839 it's some kind of like an evolutionary 1216 00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,920 game like we have to 1217 00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:25,119 these 1218 00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,599 as kind of like this cosmic obstacle 1219 00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:31,119 course 1220 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:35,359 and we have to evolve to see beyond it 1221 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,720 in order to kind of move to that next 1222 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,599 place where we're able to move beyond 1223 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,680 our own species 1224 00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:45,280 but they're kind of just like waiting 1225 00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:46,640 for us 1226 00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,119 to get to that place because obviously 1227 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:50,960 if we're fighting each other if we if 1228 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,760 we're 1229 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,359 killing each other 1230 00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,720 and doing things that are totally 1231 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,200 irrational and not able to kind of see 1232 00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,880 past that 1233 00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,640 then we're not ready to 1234 00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,240 meet 1235 00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:04,079 aliens like 1236 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,440 because what are we going to do what's 1237 00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:07,280 our reaction going to be if we can't get 1238 00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,800 along with each other 1239 00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,560 how are we going to get along 1240 00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,880 with other species that are like very 1241 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:14,960 different from us 1242 00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,280 yeah so there's that too that i think 1243 00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,119 about 1244 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,960 dan let me let me know before i forget 1245 00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:22,640 that it's like 1246 00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,920 it's interesting that you say it and 1247 00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:25,440 it's nice that you say like you're kind 1248 00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,960 of on the loving light side of things 1249 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,880 like like dan can be as well 1250 00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,079 and 1251 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,640 if it's a little bit like a safari where 1252 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,960 you've got a beautiful reserve ton of 1253 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,640 land and 1254 00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:38,000 some people like to just go through and 1255 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:39,680 look at the animals 1256 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,160 on that safari you've got rangers who 1257 00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,240 look after the animals you know and make 1258 00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:46,160 sure that they're they're kept safe 1259 00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,520 they've got food that you know their 1260 00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,000 surroundings are are well kept but then 1261 00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,000 you've got poachers who who come onto 1262 00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,800 that land to to use the animals for 1263 00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:57,040 other resources and you know for really 1264 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,720 horrible means you know look at the way 1265 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,720 rhinos are hunted for their for their 1266 00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,560 ivory and things like that 1267 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:04,079 and if we're just the same way you've 1268 00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:05,760 got people kind of looking out for us 1269 00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:08,079 but then you've got these others who are 1270 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:13,910 the way i see humanity at the moment 1271 00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,000 it's too far gone that tomorrow we find 1272 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,400 out we've got these these alien beings 1273 00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,319 other entities whatever it might be the 1274 00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,839 world overnight doesn't change that 1275 00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,359 everyone's really happy all of a sudden 1276 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,960 and do you know what that says we're 1277 00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,400 ready to ascend to a new level of 1278 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,240 consciousness that's just 1279 00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,760 i just can't see how that's possible 1280 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:32,000 with the way humanity is i think that if 1281 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:33,599 you came out and told 1282 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,319 our species as it is now with social 1283 00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,480 media and people's psyches the way they 1284 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,800 are that you've got a species who are 1285 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,400 entities looking out for us who want us 1286 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,560 to do well and evolve and love each 1287 00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:46,480 other i think you would have as many 1288 00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,079 people 1289 00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,520 maybe not as many but there'll be a lot 1290 00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,280 of people who'll be quite happy to hear 1291 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:53,839 there's other forces who want us to 1292 00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,560 fight and do bad things and and not 1293 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,640 evolve and you know 1294 00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:00,720 it's a little bit i was i saw at the end 1295 00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,800 of the film that it is at the end is not 1296 00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,560 the end of the world or the end is nigh 1297 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:05,920 that had um 1298 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,400 seth rogen and all those guys in it 1299 00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:10,319 that oh yeah someone told me not to 1300 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,440 watch that because they said it was too 1301 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,440 depressing 1302 00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:14,880 but you know what it's funny though 1303 00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,520 there's a part of the film where they 1304 00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,520 it turns out as that apocalypse type 1305 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:21,119 scenario but people who have been really 1306 00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:23,200 good are being taken off taken off the 1307 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:24,240 planet 1308 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,839 and they're evolving to you know they're 1309 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:27,119 going to heaven because the world's 1310 00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,880 ending there's demons and everything 1311 00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:30,800 kicking about and you know 1312 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,160 hell on earth is happening and during it 1313 00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,880 like if they if they commit a good deed 1314 00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:38,800 they can go to heaven but where there 1315 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,319 are groups that are quite happy further 1316 00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,400 to be hell on earth and while i'm using 1317 00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:44,160 a hollywood movie that i can accommodate 1318 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:45,839 talk about that i think that would 1319 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,720 probably be about right now as well so 1320 00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:50,880 it's a very difficult situation i think 1321 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,800 that you potentially are stuck in the 1322 00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,920 middle of 1323 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,119 you we're saying too it could be 1324 00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,359 multiple factions it could be 1325 00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:59,040 beings overseeing those entities and 1326 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,400 beings if that's how indeed it works and 1327 00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,480 what do you see the root for our species 1328 00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:06,480 dahlia you know 1329 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,640 do you think it's a case of if we do get 1330 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,560 to interact or find out we get that 1331 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,720 disclosure we find out there are other 1332 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,599 beings how do things change from there 1333 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,240 that we can evolve in the right way 1334 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:23,349 i i think that it's already happening i 1335 00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,480 think that we're 1336 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:25,760 already 1337 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,520 evolving 1338 00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:30,000 um i mean and even if you just look at 1339 00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,520 like technologically wise 1340 00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,760 how much we've changed and it's kind of 1341 00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,760 like we don't even notice the change 1342 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,839 when it's happening but we're it's just 1343 00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,440 it's just happening 1344 00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:44,079 and i think it's interesting um 1345 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,839 you know when you think about religion 1346 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:47,520 and that you know some people would see 1347 00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:50,880 this as like angels or god or whatever 1348 00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,160 but that's another thing that 1349 00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,480 gets me thinking deeply because we're 1350 00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,359 all kind of also programmed to look 1351 00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:02,000 beyond ourselves to like like be looking 1352 00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:02,800 for 1353 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,359 this answer in the skies 1354 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,760 and where did that come from 1355 00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:09,760 so i think with all of these things in 1356 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,359 place that just i i think 1357 00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:14,800 i think one day we're just going to wake 1358 00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,240 up and realize that it has happened 1359 00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:21,440 that we just we have this knowingness 1360 00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:23,520 and this is where we are i don't think 1361 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,440 it's going to be like overnight and this 1362 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:27,680 is just me 1363 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,640 you know 1364 00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,720 with my predictions 1365 00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:33,119 it's as good as anyone's yeah 1366 00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,240 yes 1367 00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:35,920 but i don't think it's going to be this 1368 00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,920 thing where overnight we find out that 1369 00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:39,680 there's aliens and we're running in the 1370 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,760 street and we don't know what's up or 1371 00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,920 down and we're confused and all that i 1372 00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:44,880 just 1373 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:48,480 that knowingness 1374 00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:51,760 and it'll be like waking up from a dream 1375 00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:54,160 just before oh yeah okay 1376 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,599 that's it 1377 00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,280 just before we run out of time dalia i 1378 00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:59,119 want to ask everyone and you're the 1379 00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:01,760 final call as well what are your hopes 1380 00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,559 realistically for for 2022 when it comes 1381 00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:06,800 to ufos what do you expect or hope to 1382 00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:11,829 oh gosh 1383 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,960 i'm not like i'm not really versed in 1384 00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:16,960 all the stuff you guys are reversed in i 1385 00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,030 i'm just kind of looking 1386 00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,960 towards the skies and hoping that we get 1387 00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:26,880 some answers i think we're really in 1388 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:33,910 we could potentially really grow from 1389 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:36,559 what we've experienced 1390 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,760 and that that is my hope that we just 1391 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:41,760 see more of the truth 1392 00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:45,040 and with that we become better as people 1393 00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:48,160 like that's 1394 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,839 that's my hope and i you know i'm kind 1395 00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,839 of one of these people where it's like 1396 00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,319 i think part of the reason why 1397 00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:56,559 i want you know i've just always been 1398 00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,280 looking for aliens and ufos and all that 1399 00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,119 is because i really need there to be 1400 00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,760 something beyond what we are 1401 00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,160 like i've got i've got to believe that i 1402 00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,599 don't think there's a better way to end 1403 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,440 the show this week than that dahlia so 1404 00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,800 it's a very positive message and 1405 00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,800 positive outlook as well 1406 00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:14,559 drop the mic dahlia that was that was 1407 00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,599 nice a nice compassionate note to end on 1408 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,760 awesome well dalia lovely speaking with 1409 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,760 you and hope to speak to you again 1410 00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:23,440 thank you it's great to speak with you 1411 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:25,839 guys too that is all for this week's 1412 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:28,000 show thank you very much for listening 1413 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:29,920 please remember to leave the podcaster 1414 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,480 review on your chosen platform you can 1415 00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:34,960 like retweet and subscribe that would 1416 00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:37,119 all be very much appreciated the 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00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:18,720 if you really want to know who i think 1434 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:34,790 [Music] 1435 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,109 is 1436 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:07,030 it wasn't a tic tac and not quite a 1437 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:27,670 [Music] 1438 00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:29,650 it's very different